Why is the VK group not displayed in search: reasons and what to do?


Ways to restore access to a group

1. Restoring access to the owner’s page

First of all, if the group owner page belonged to you, but is now no longer accessible, consider all options for restoring it. The fastest way is to reset the password (or unfreeze it if the page is frozen) via SMS to the linked phone number.

Transferring rights to one of the administrators or editors

If access to the owner’s page is lost forever, but there are other administrators and editors in the group, then on behalf of one of them you can write to the agents and ask to transfer the owner’s rights to yourself - How to create a request for VK support agents. The support service will investigate all the circumstances. If they are unable to contact the current owner within a certain time, and there are no other obstacles, the rights may be transferred (this does NOT mean that they will necessarily be transferred; each case is considered individually).

If a person quits

If the creator (owner, administrator) of the group no longer works for the organization, you need to find out whether his page is active. If so, then the easiest option is to negotiate with him so that he transfers the owner rights to one of the other administrators or editors of the group (if there are none, then he first needs to assign the group member as an administrator, and then transfer the rights). The transfer of rights is carried out through the “Management” menu item in the group, then “Participants → Managers”. Please note that after the transfer of rights, the previous owner will have another 2 weeks during which he can return them to himself.

If the group owner’s page is not active (blocked, he has lost access or simply has not visited it for a long time), then you need to either contact support agents with a request to transfer rights to one of the remaining administrators (see above), or provide official documents ( see below).

3. Providing official documents from the organization

If the group is associated with an officially registered organization or business, you can provide the appropriate documents to transfer the owner’s rights to yourself (your current page). Make inquiries to agents to find out exactly what you need. Please be patient, the entire process may take two weeks or more.

What documents are needed to restore rights to the group? In one of the examples from open sources, the following list of what was requested by the VK administration was indicated:

  • An official request on the organization's letterhead with the stamp and signature of the director
  • Power of attorney in the name of an employee (VK user) with a list of powers
  • OGRN certificate
  • Trademark certificate (if any)
  • Placing a special confirmation code on one of the pages of the organization’s website

I left the community (group, public) in which I was an administrator. How to restore access?

If you are the owner (creator), then you can easily restore access to group management. Just re-enter it. This can be done at any time, and no one will stop you from doing so. Keep in mind that this must be the same user who is the owner. After all, if you created a group on behalf of one page, and now use another, then it no longer has anything to do with the owner of the group, even if the first and last names are the same.

If you are not the owner, but simply an administrator or editor, then you cannot regain your rights yourself, even if you accidentally left the group. First you need to rejoin the group, and then ask one of the current administrators to return your rights. Why is this done? This is such protection. An administrator who left a group can be forgotten, and if he were to suddenly return with full rights, he could do some bad things.

Tips: how to ensure security and not lose access to the group

You cannot take the security of the owner’s page lightly; there is a risk of losing access to the group forever. The owner is the same administrator as others, but only from him other administrators cannot take away the rights to the group, and only he can transfer the owner rights to another administrator. In addition, only the owner can carry out some actions to manage the community - for example, transfer the group to public and back.

  • Take care of the owner's account. Its page should always be linked to a valid phone number. Follow all safety precautions.
  • Don’t do anything on behalf of the owner’s page that could get you blocked. Do not violate the rules of VK: do not send spam, invitations to the group.
  • Even if you don't use the owner's page, you should receive all the messages that come in private and be able to respond to them. It is recommended to enable notifications of new messages by email or SMS. The fact is that if one of the other administrators tries to send an application with a request to transfer the owner’s rights to him, then the VK administration will contact the current owner to find out the circumstances of the case. And if they don't receive a response within two weeks, the owner's rights may be transferred to another person.
  • If the person who is the owner is no longer involved in managing the group, ask them to transfer ownership rights to you. This is done in group management, in the “Participants → Leaders” section.
  • If the group belongs to an organization, you need to double-check who is assigned as its owner. This should not be an employee who is unable to ensure the security of his account, and especially not a former employee who has already been fired.
  • Be careful when appointing administrators. These should be people you completely trust. If there are unnecessary people in the administrators, you need to remove them from there. And if a person will only publish materials or act as a moderator, there is no need to make him an administrator; It is enough to grant editor rights.

Searching for groups on VK is possible in several ways. Community members are united by interests; they can express their opinions or view news feeds. Any user can create their own public and invite friends or acquaintances to it. In associations, it is possible to find any information of interest on one topic in posts where text, audio or video files, as well as images are attached.

Mistake 6. Reluctance to communicate

Subscribers are not always ready to immediately buy your online course. Sometimes they need to clarify something, for example, the class schedule, the specifics of homework. Or it’s just important to make sure that the community is “live” and in case of some problem they can talk to a real person and not a bot.

Enable the ability to send messages to the group. You need the "Management" tab, then - "Messages". Customize your greeting and try to respond to users as quickly as possible - the average moderator response time is displayed in the dialog box.

Download VKAdmin - this is a special service application that sends alerts to your phone about new messages and comments. Works for free.

Write instructions and scripts to your sales managers. When a subscriber sees the community administrator’s willingness to help him, the level of trust in the business increases and, accordingly, the conversion of the subscriber into a buyer.

Always monitor the conversations with your subscribers. Don't close this channel
Always monitor the conversations with your subscribers. Don't close this channel

How to find a specific group using VK tools

Before you find a group in Contact, you need to go to your profile. To take advantage of the full functionality of the site, register if you do not already have an account. Groups are searched as follows:

  1. Click on the “Communities” section, which is located in the left panel.
  2. A window will open with a list of all the communities in which you are a member. It also displays tools for filtering and quick searches.
  3. In the right panel, find the “Search for Communities” item and click on it.
  4. In the search bar located at the top, enter a keyword or group name. Then click on the magnifying glass icon or press Enter.
  5. If there are groups that match the query, they will appear in the results.

In addition, an advanced search is available for users of the social network to more accurately determine the desired public. The toolbar is located on the right side of the main window.

  • In the “Popular Communities” tab, you can select the direction in which the desired group works.
  • To quickly and efficiently search for VK groups and communities, use special filters. They help sort communities according to several parameters: type, relevance and region.

You can use the general search to find the desired public. To do this, type the key query in the top search bar, then the “Show all results” button. In the window that opens, go to the “Communities” tab.

By community ID

If you know the public ID, then finding it becomes much easier. This method is available for both registered and unregistered users. Before finding a group in VK by ID, copy it, then use one of the following methods:

  1. Add the address https://vk.com/ to the end of the ID in the browser address bar.
  2. Enter the entire address with ID in the search bar. The desired result will be displayed one of the first in the results.

If the community is closed, then you won’t be able to get into it. This requires an invitation or approval from an administrator.

How to find the public you came from

Sometimes there is a need to re-enter a community after leaving it. To find it, you need to remember its name or ID exactly. If you have forgotten this, there are several tips.

  • Go to the subscriptions of people who are in the community. To do this, go to his page and click on “Interesting Pages”.
  • Remember the posts that were published on the public wall. To do this, use the general search by selecting “News”. Using filters, you can set the type of attached files, the number of likes, and location.
  • If you participated in the discussion of the post, then try to find the group in the comments. In the news feed, in the panel on the right, click on the “Comments” item and find the association post from which you left.

To find your public, go to the “Groups” section. Then select the Manage tab at the top. The list that appears will display all the communities that you have created.

Error 5. No adaptation for mobile devices

In VKontakte communities, traffic from mobile devices can account for more than 80–90% of all visits. Keep this in mind when developing your group design:

1. In the cover design. When you view the community's home page on a smartphone, the cover image is cut off at the edges by about 15-20%. Conclusion - do not place important information in these areas.

2. In the design of the menu. Similarly with the wiki menu - if you decide to do this, immediately test it on your smartphone. Or you can look in browsers. For example, in Opera or Chrome there is a simple free way - press Ctrl+Shift+i, the site developer window will open. At the top there will be a drop-down form with the inscription Responsive - click on it and select the desired smartphone model for the test.

Please note that on mobile devices the cover will be slightly cropped at the edges
Please note that on mobile devices the cover will be slightly cropped at the edges

Search for a group without registration

In VK, searching for groups is available without registration. To do this, follow the step-by-step instructions:

  1. Open any browser and go to the list of VK communities using the special link - https://vk.com/communities. A list of all public pages on the social network will open.
  2. Use the search by entering a keyword or title. Press Enter.
  3. The results can be sorted by traffic, type and region thanks to special tools located in the block on the right.

Due to the popularity of the social network VK, it has become possible to find public pages through search engines. All communities are indexed by search engines, which turns each group into a separate site.

One of the easiest ways is to enter the query “site: https://vk.com keyword or topic” in the Google or Yandex search bar. The most suitable match will appear in the first lines of the search results.

You won’t be able to find closed publics this way. In addition, there is no filter available here to make your search more efficient.

Why sometimes the VK group does not appear in Google search results? The fact is that the search engine does not immediately index new communities, and it must also meet the following conditions:

  • It must have an avatar, a correct description and a correct name.
  • Existence must be more than 1 month.
  • Age appropriate.
  • The presence of more than 150 entries on the page.
  • The number of participants must exceed 100 people.

Using Google or Yandex search engines, you can find a group in VKontakte by both name and ID. Enter the link address in the line and press Enter.

Mistake 7. Ignoring “products”

VKontakte has a “Products” function. Conventionally, this is a “showcase” where the owner of an online school can display his courses, other goods and services. Complete this section, even if your school only has two. Add an invitation to a trial webinar there and indicate that it is free. Register each product and indicate the price.

If you enable the VKpay function, subscribers will be able to buy access to the course without leaving the social network. This is convenient for users, but you will have to transfer legal documents to VK.

Try to keep the “products” page up to date
Try to keep the “products” page up to date

Finding your group on VK

Why is your group not visible in VK search? There are several reasons for this:

  • Check the age limit setting. You may be set to 16+ or 18+, so your community won't show up in the results when using Safe Search. An age restriction is necessary if the published content contains violent materials or scenes of a sexual nature.
  • VK hides new public pages with little activity in search results. This is done in order to reduce the amount of spam.
  • The social network considered the published materials to be spam or adult content. In this case, you need to contact support so that the group is available for safe search.
  • There are few publications in your community. Try creating 15-20 posts, adding descriptions and hashtags.

Now you know about the possible reasons why a group is not in the search in VKontakte. Therefore, errors can be eliminated in a few clicks. In order for the community to be indexed in search engines, it is necessary to follow the rules of the Russian language, namely:

  • put spaces after periods and commas in the name of the public, as well as in posted texts;
  • no grammatical errors;
  • restricting the use of CapsLock in writing phrases.

In addition, if the name contains special characters or links to third-party resources, the community will not be indexed.

Mistake 4. Trivial or unclear name

On the Internet you can find advice from search engine optimization experts - call the community not just the name of the brand, but use words related to the company’s activities. For example: teach photography, call the community “photo school”. This will not work in promoting a VKontakte group without understanding the nuances of user psychology.

It's not bad advice if you use it wisely. Don't limit yourself to "photography school" in the name; add at least the name of the expert. Before creating a public page, look in the search to see how many other administrators are trying to get traffic using this technique.

There are more than two thousand photo schools in VK. Better come up with a different name
There are more than two thousand photo schools in VK. Better come up with a different name

How to raise a community on VK in search

Many novice administrators are interested in how to raise a group in the search in Contact? To be at the top, you need high activity. This rule also applies to Google and Yandex. Therefore, to increase your rating, consider the following rules:

  • The name of the public should be succinct and precise, without the use of foreign words or symbols.
  • High user activity. This can be achieved through various surveys, competitions and quizzes. There are also controversial posts, under which discussions among subscribers often take place.
  • Advertise your community in other public pages.
  • For commercial associations, the number of subscribers is important. So invite other users based on their interests and goals.
  • The public should be open and accessible to everyone.
  • Improve your content, add interesting publications and media files. Update your feed regularly.
  • If your public is not local, remove its location.

Try not to use special programs to increase likes and subscribers. Because of this, you can get banned and lose your group forever.

Any PC user can find a community of interests on VK. You don't need to have a social network account to do this. In addition, special tools allow you to do this quickly and efficiently. If you decide to create your own group, then you must follow certain rules in order to receive new subscribers and raise your public profile in search.

I support an online store of a local seller of mobile phones, tablets and other wearable electronics. One morning I received a message from one of the store group administrators with approximately the following content:

Hello, do you know who Alexey Kholyshev is? Overnight, he kicked out all of our employees as administrators and turned the store group into a group selling steroids. What should we do?

Prologue. What actually happened?

With the thought “you’re a programmer” and professional curiosity, he advised me to write to VKontakte support and describe the situation, and he himself went looking for precedents. As it turns out, there is very little information about the restoration of commercial groups. There are stories about information and entertainment groups everywhere, but not about business communities.

Act 1. Write to support

Act 2. First response from support

At the moment, we have blocked the community for changing the topic and want to have a conversation with the creator of the group.

Act 3. Instructions for action

Act 4. Waiting. A happy ending

Epilogue.

In fact, the group was lost for a month, but the next day after the capture it was blocked and only managed to publish 1 entry. The rest of the time it hung blocked in the list of groups for our clients. During this period, we lost 15% of group members (these were real clients). The volume of lost profits is difficult to estimate.

Now everything looks simple and consistent, but in reality it was a lot of stress for the entire company. When working with a small market, it is very important to maintain customer loyalty. This whole story hit the company's image hard.

Many users have a lot of useful and interesting information stored on their VKontakte wall: photographs, music, memorable messages. But this is an unreliable storage, because any records can be accidentally erased. It is especially offensive if the information presented in the post was unique, that is, you will not be able to repost or post it again. There is no need to get upset ahead of time: deleted data can be returned if you know how to act in this situation.

Mistake 1. Buy a community

The main problem in independently promoting a new public page on VKontakte is the reluctance of people to subscribe to your updates. The logic works like this:

  • A newcomer enters a community and sees that 10–20 people are reading it;
  • Psychology works - there are very few subscribers here, which means there is nothing interesting;
  • The person leaves the page.

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To solve this problem, a businessman may give in to temptation and buy someone else's community on the exchange. Then just rename it and get an online school group that has 1-10 thousand subscribers. No, promoting VKontakte pages doesn’t work that way, it’s a waste of money. That's why:

  • The community can be banned for changing the topic and name - this is prohibited by the VKontakte rules;
  • A group may consist of bots - fake empty accounts that, after the next “cleansing”, will disappear from subscribers;
  • Even if the community was “live” and real, after changing the topic, users will stop liking and reposting - this means that the engagement rate will decrease, and with it the reach will drop, and your posts will be seen by fewer and fewer people.

If you decide to promote an online school on VKontakte, read our article on creating an advertising strategy - it’s not so important how many people are in the community. If there is interesting and engaging content, people will come, read and stay.

Don't buy other people's groups - you risk wasting money and getting banned
Don't buy other people's groups - you risk wasting money and getting banned

Instant Recovery

If you accidentally deleted a post on your VKontakte wall, but did not have time to refresh the page or exit your profile, you can restore the post in one click. Please note: a “Restore” link has appeared in place of the deleted entry. When you click on it, the information you erased will appear again on the VK wall.

You can delete and restore VKontakte entries as many times as you like.

The only condition is that you cannot refresh or close the page. After updating the page, the “Restore” link will disappear, and you will no longer be able to return the deleted post on the VK wall.

wall.restore method

If you deleted a message and closed your VK profile or updated the page, then to return the post you will have to use the wall.restore method, available in the developer documentation. This method allows you to restore a post on the wall of a user or VK community within a few hours after deletion.

To successfully use this method, you need to know two parameters - the identifier of the user page or VK community, as well as the identifier of the deleted entry. If you replaced ID in the address of a VKontakte profile or group with words, then you need to find digital identifiers.

  1. Open any post on the wall.
  2. Click on your browser's address bar to view the full post address.

Pay attention to the numbers after the word “wall”. “-96339986” is the community ID, “229” is the VKontakte post ID.

The greatest difficulty is determining the ID of a deleted post, which has to be selected from the interval between records. Posts and comments are numbered in a row, so to determine the ID of a deleted post, you need to look at the number of the previous and subsequent posts. From this interval you need to select the ID of the message that needs to be restored. The numbering usually goes in order - 229, 230, 231, etc., so you can quickly find the right number.

Be careful: for VKontakte communities, the ID is indicated with a “-” sign, that is, in the request you will need to write “-96339986”.

Probably every user of the social network VKontakte dreamed of having a popular group with a lot of posts and comments. Over time, the founders of the group face a lot of problems. This could be low popularity, a small number of users, the creation of non-unique posts, etc.

It's no secret that most groups created by newcomers are simply abandoned and fail. Inviting a large number of users, writing unique posts, and seeing a large number of comments is not so easy and requires a lot of work. For a beginner, promoting a group is pointless, since this work rarely brings benefits.

A large number of “abandoned” VKontakte groups shows the inability of the creators to develop their “creation”. The ideal option is to delete an unnecessary group. Let's figure out how to delete a VKontakte group. Is it possible to quickly delete a VKontakte group and forget about your first “creation” forever?

How to delete a VKontakte group?

So, the first thing you need is to be the creator of this group and enter it. On the left we will see a menu that allows you to manage the created community. First we need the Community Management

, which contains the tabs
“Information”, “Participants”, “Blacklist” and “Links”.
If you are the creator of this group, you have the ability to fully manage your group. Your task is to delete the annoying VK group. The first thing you need to do is remove all members of your group. To do this, we go to the “Community Management” menu, “Members”

and remove all members of the group.

Don't forget to delete everything in the "Information"

. Next, we delete all albums, discussion topics, videos and audio recordings. Be sure to delete posts on the wall.

Now it’s pretty quick to delete all the information - just click on the cross on the left. Photos can be deleted as entire albums. Don't forget to delete your avatar.

After you remove all the information, your creation will look like this:

Private involves the entry of new members by invitation only. This means that no one else will be able to join your group or even apply.

Go to the “ Contacts”

", which is located at the bottom left and delete ourselves. Click leave the group.

Your group will now look like this:

The disadvantage of deleting a group this way is that empty communities are not deleted immediately. But you are no longer the creator of the community and have nothing to do with it. There is no information, audio or video in your community, but it still exists.

When deleting a group, you can change the name to “Delete Community.”

Some users were lucky and after a few days their group was deleted.

There are, of course, other ways to delete a VK group. You can post provocative information and complain about yourself. In this case, your group will be blocked

.

How to restore a VKontakte group

Restoring a VK group is possible if it has been blocked. To do this, you will need to contact technical support at https://vk.com/support?act=new

and describe your problem.

It is worth understanding that your group may not be deleted immediately, and if you are not happy with the group name, change it before performing the previous steps. In this case, you don’t have to worry - no one will be able to join your group and write comments. After some time, the empty group will definitely be deleted.

If you decide to restore your VKontakte group, you should understand that the chances of this are minimal and you should definitely contact technical support.

You shouldn’t think that people will definitely join your group - you yourself will have to invite new users. It’s also worth worrying about – photos and posts from well-known communities are unlikely to be of any use to you. Creating a VK group is a rather complicated process, regardless of the topic of the group.

This requires the work of an experienced designer, copywriters and the ability to promote groups. Creating a successful and popular community on your own is quite difficult.

The VKontakte social network contains a lot of unnecessary material - each user can create their own group, upload their own audio, etc. You should not engage in useless things - evaluate your capabilities before starting any business.

Mistake 2. Forgetting about design

Design is not just beautiful pictures in the same style. Users' first impression of your community is visual. If you decide to promote your school on social networks, do not ignore it and work on good design.

Focus on the community avatar or cover photo. Just a beautiful picture from a photo bank will not do - it will not be remembered and will give the feeling that the community was made in a hurry.

A bad example is a beautiful photo, but the user does not understand where he ended up
A bad example is a beautiful photo, but the user does not understand where he ended up

On the cover or avatar, indicate one or more elements:

  • Name of the online school;
  • Niche;
  • What is the community about?
  • Why join this community;
  • Contacts, for example, phone number;
  • Main advantage or USP;
  • Call to action.

Read any current guide to public page design - dimensions on social networks are constantly changing, it is important to use the latest requirements.

A good example is the cover is beautiful and informative. An expert's photo inspires confidence
A good example is the cover is beautiful and informative. An expert's photo inspires confidence

Treat all group visuals as a way to help the user. If your content is divided into categories, prepare templates with a different color style for each. If you made a selling post, draw a picture with a call to action. This is the basis for promoting any business on VKontakte.

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